07/23/2006
IWDM Study Library
Born Free of Sin

By Imam W. Deen Mohammed
0:00:03 Imam W. Deen Mohammed: Praise be to Allah we witnessed that he is one, the lord sustainer of all the world, the keeper of the material world and also the world of mankind. And if he doesn't keep the world, it certainly will be destroyed.
0:00:21 Speaker 2: Yes that's right.
0:00:24 IWDM: We witnessed that Muhammad, to whom the Qur'an was revealed, the last of the revealed books from G-d, is his servant and his messenger and a mercy to all the world, as is written in the Qur'an. Can someone give this to brother Rafiq if you see him?
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0:00:52 IWDM: We went to the aquarium yesterday and had a relaxing time. They got it very convenient now on the lake shore. You can go right to the Museum of Natural History and aquarium, everything. The planetarium everything. Very easy, to get there, very easily. Really a nice improvement they have made. I enjoyed being out there and we saw the dolphin show. All gift, a gift from our good sister. I'm not gonna tell you her name, you might go to her and ask her for something.
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0:01:36 IWDM: She is here today, the good sister. Our good sister gave us tickets for all of us. It was about, let's see how many exactly we were... Six of us.
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0:01:54 IWDM: Yes. And there's a lot to learn from nature. That's how a man first learned. In fact, that's how he's learning now, if you understand. Science deals with nothing but nature. Nature, that's the only thing it deals with. It studies human nature to see what's wrong with you. It studies the nature of other things, animals, nature of parts of the animals, the blood, the skin, the hair, the eyes, everything. It studies the nature to learn what to do about the nature, how to help the nature and how to help the world of mankind. The world of mankind has grown to be very, very rich in knowledge, scientific knowledge, science, by studying nature. And the public behavior goes away from nature. Allows corruption in the culture to take the human behavior from good nature. G-d didn't make us bad, G-d made us good. And that's what we read in the scriptures. I say, "Scriptures", that G-d made us good, not bad, made us good. Are you all too hot? You're uncomfortable?
0:03:36 S2: No.
0:03:37 IWDM: Yeah, maybe you need a fan on there to cool you off a little bit or something.
0:03:43 S2: I'm fine.
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0:03:46 IWDM: Maybe I hit those heavy thoughts got you uptight like that?
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0:03:54 IWDM: If you really got knowledge, it's supposed to ease your life not tighten it up. [laughter]
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0:04:01 S2: That's right.
0:04:04 IWDM: But everything's gonna be alright, same hellhole I've been in before.
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0:04:20 IWDM: A little humor loosens you up too. I try to loosen it up with a little humor sometimes. Yes, so the good nature will always support our life evolving, growing and progressing, the good nature. But if that nature can be regressed and corrupted or confused by a manipulator, even if it's the culture manipulating that behavior, that nature, then you can lose everything good and find it very difficult to have just a normal, decent life that a dog would have, or a pigeon would have, or a whatever. You don't find them shooting each other up with drugs, killing each other over pennies, carrying out their rudeness against each other. You don't see that. All those animals out there and look, we don't hear any fighting going on. We in here... The windows open back there. We don't hear any fighting going on. There're thousands, millions of animals out there. You get that many of us together... Oh my Goodness! That's because we have strayed from our original nature.
0:06:00 S2: Yes sir.
0:06:02 IWDM: By the Nation of Islam's teaching us about the original man and the original nature, it was saying that the original nature is good. That's what the Nation of Islam was saying when it was teaching us to be our own self. And that teaching us that we were the original man. It was telling us that G-d... That nature G-d made is good, the original nature is good. And if you keep to it, you will be alright. There is nothing created by G-d that hasn't been created to follow the spirit and urges, in its life or in its nature for improvement. Life progresses until something happens to confuse life, then life regresses. But life is progressive. This is science, not only religion, this is science. Life is progressive. Everything existing once existed in a worse form for survival than it has now, including man. Did you hear that? I hope you did. Everything in existence, living things, once had a worse life for survival than it has now.
0:07:39 S2: Yeah. That's right.
0:07:41 IWDM: It has adapted to situations and has improved its life and found improvement for its life, betterment for its life for certain circumstances, so that it could take advantage of those circumstances and exist better and make progress for its life form. Yes. And when Allah tells us about our life form, what he does, he goes back to the life germ, and he shows us how the life germ became a complex, marvelous creature, a human being. From a clot, or from blood adhering, and then a foetus' lung and bones structuring it. It went stage by stage to get to this marvelous creature that's standing erect, that we call the human being. Homo erectus. Yes. This is what Allah shows us. Allah shows us that to tell us that he created our life to be progressive not regressive, progressive. And if we stay with the line of progress for life, we will continue to progress.
0:09:09 S2: Allahu Akbar.
0:09:14 IWDM: It's hot out there but it's been so hot, I'm getting used to it. The reading was 94, just a few minutes ago, 94. But it doesn't feel that bad after you get used to it. You get used to 98 and 100, 94 is cooler.
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0:09:49 IWDM: Well, we're glad to see you here today, glad you could make it here today and be here today. Out here in the suburbs, it's not too easy if you don't have a car, it's not too easy to get out here. But they have the pace bus, they have a way. And if you love each other, and you find out that a brother's coming from your area here with a car, and you don't have one, ride with him, if he invites you to.
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0:10:29 IWDM: Remember these are not the good days that you read in scripture. The first day was good, second day good, third day good, fourth day good. Fifth day was all good, sixth day was all good. Seventh day, G-d completed his all good works. Now, it ain't like that now. You'll have somebody, where the hellraiser two, and three, and four. One, two, three, and four.
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0:11:00 IWDM: It might be the driver.
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0:11:00 IWDM: Or a passenger.
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0:11:04 IWDM: You're sitting, you're on guard, you're sitting in the wrong place. Imam Sultan you're supposed to be sitting here. We can't change things. Once I establish the order it's got to stay that way.
0:11:24 S2: Allah Akbar.
0:11:25 IWDM: The brother there, if he's on security, that's fine.
0:11:28 S2: Allah Akbar.
0:11:31 IWDM: And he better secure you just like he's securing me.
0:11:37 S2: Allah Akbar [laughter]
0:11:41 IWDM: Praise be to Allah. The landlord is not the boss here. When I come here, I'm the boss.
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0:11:55 IWDM: If the landlord ain't pleased with that, we have to get another place. I won't fight him, I'll just get another place.
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0:12:09 IWDM: Yeah. You know back in the Nation of Islam days, oh boy, you had everybody fighting to get into the photo. And the photo, what they want the photo, the photo had to have them standing near the rostrum with Elijah Muhammad, he's standing here and there's his guard, he's standing there. Well, you could be standing behind him, peeping over him, you know. They make sure you see them, if they're standing there. Or somewhere in the front, you just got to be seen. That Negro is... Oh he's messed up.
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0:12:43 IWDM: Slavery really messed him up. Slavery took his dignity away. Slavery took his freedom away. Slavery took his pride away, made him nothing, below nothing. So every time he get a chance to get in a position to show himself as something... Oh Reverend Jessie Jackson, he doesn't know he messed up, when he said, "I am somebody." He didn't have to tell a black man that.
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0:13:13 IWDM: He's always trying to get somebody to see that he is somebody. He'll buy an expensive car and lose his house, can't pay his mortgage, but he'll buy the expensive car to say, "I'm somebody."
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0:13:33 IWDM: Yeah. He'll risk getting killed on the streets selling drugs and robbing people so he can have money and dress and say, "I am somebody." We don't need anybody to boost us up there. We need to sober that spirit. I don't know how many of my students I have here. How many of my students? By students, I mean students that come to my classes, my Sunday classes. Okay. Okay, we have a few, not too many. Whenever you know I'm gonna speak, students, you should be here. That's right. So you tell the rest of them, it ain't my fault that they're gonna miss out today. It's their fault.
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0:14:54 IWDM: The Qur'an mentions the three main formations of personality in the soul, for the soul. It has them in the Qur'an as nafs-ul-ammarah, nafs-al-lawwama and nafs-ul-mutmainnah, mutmainnah. And Abraham, Ibrahim in the Quran, Abraham, he is identified as achieving or being nafs-ul-mutmainnah, nafs-ul-mutmainnah. And in English nafs-ul-mutmainnah is given in Translation of Qur'an as a self that is pleased, at peace. Pleased, at peace with G-d and at peace with himself. At peace with himself and at peace with his G-d, his creator. Nafs-ul-mutmainnah, the tranquil self, the peaceful self, the satisfied self. He had become satisfied with himself, his own person. And he had become pleasing to his creator, satisfying before his creator also. This is the best formation in the soul. For our self or identity. But it is necessary to have the other two also, the other two. Nafs-al-lawwama means the self that tends to be critical, to find fault, to find errors, to find defects in things. That's good too. Allah wouldn't have made it if it wasn't good. It's good. Even the nafs-ul-mutmainnah has to be able to examine things, question things and find fault. And that's exactly what Abraham did.
0:17:14 IWDM: He found fault with his father's idol worship. He found fault with the prevailing opinion or perception of the world of reality, matter, earth, life, nature, the skies, the planets, etcetera. He found fault with their perception of reality. And he questioned it, and he examined it with his own rational brain and mind. And he came to the conclusion that none of those things were G-d. They all failed his idea or opinion of what should be his G-d. As the story goes, you've heard it many times, he finally rejected everything. He rejected the stars. He rejected the sun. Even the sun, when it came up, he was impressed by it, but he couldn't accept it as G-d when it set. When it set he said, "My G-d is not one to set." G-d undergoes no change. That's the idea that his search led him to, that G-d cannot be perishable and undergo change or changes like the material reality or exists us. So he decided that the one who designed the material world to follow their laws is G-d.
0:19:05 IWDM: But G-d is not of that nature. And he became the father, the second father of all nations, second father of mankind. G-d honored him so in making him the second father of all mankind, Abraham. And his nafs was Mutmainnah. He had an urge in his naf. He wouldn't be satisfied until he was pleased with his own soul in light of his own intelligence. He wouldn't be satisfied until he was pleased with himself before G-d. Or G-d pleased with him accepting him also. His intelligence would not stop until he arrived there.
0:20:00 S2: That's right.
0:20:01 IWDM: Abraham. So he is a father of education. Father of teaching, and education.
0:20:10 S2: That's right.
0:20:11 IWDM: Abraham. Yes. Our first father Adam, is the father of human nature and industry, labor, work, construction, industry. Adam, and then Abraham is the father of the learning process we call education that takes us all the way to colleges and universities.
0:20:37 S2: Yeah.
0:20:39 IWDM: The followers of Muhammad had this knowledge, and some of them do today, all over the world. There are few all over the world that have the knowledge I'm sharing with you right now. But it was exciting for those minds that had been stagnant, that had been out of touch with the world, that G-d created the mind to engage. The natural world. When they were turned on by the Revelation of Qur'an and Mohammad's leadership, prayers, and peace be on him. Oh, they became so active.
0:21:24 S2: It's a fact.
0:21:26 IWDM: Mentally.
0:21:26 S2: That's right.
0:21:27 IWDM: Their mental curiosities were jumping. And within the life of a man, within the life of one generation, they had established colleges or universities that still exist.
0:21:43 S2: That's right. It's a fact.
0:21:46 IWDM: Yes. Even in Africa, Timbuktu Fez Morocco, Timbuktu. Heart of Africa. Yes. This is reality. This is real history.
0:22:00 S2: Yes sir.
0:22:03 IWDM: Not guess work. This is reality. We say Salaam Alaykum, how many of us understand what we're saying? Very few maybe not in here. Maybe some, maybe none. Maybe one or two in the whole of Illinois, who knows.
0:22:24 S2: Yes sir.
0:22:24 IWDM: Understand what we are really saying when we say, Salaam Alaykum. Peace be on you and talking to one person or many, which is incorrect grammar you know that. To speak to one person, and call that one person "Kum" that one person is not "Kum" by grammar by the rules of grammar that person is "Ke", not "Kum".
0:22:44 S2: That's right.
0:22:47 IWDM: "Ke" means one, or "ki" female "ki" means one. "Kum" means many, but it's still correct. How is it correct? It's correct by reasoning upon the eye opening logic of Revelation.
0:23:06 S2: Yes sir.
0:23:09 IWDM: Not grammar. Revelation. But also when we study history, we find that a king will be addressed as though he is many, not one person. In Arabic language and in any other language. Sometimes they address the king as in the plural, as though he is more, many people, not one. Why? Because the office of that person is more important than the physical life of that person.
0:23:47 S2: That's right. That's right.
0:23:50 IWDM: The Office of that person has to be respected.
0:23:53 S2: That's right.
0:23:56 IWDM: And that person has people performing with him and in support of him as though they were his own physical life.
0:24:09 S2: That's right.
0:24:10 IWDM: Where do we have that in history? David, in the Scriptural history. David's men said to him, we are born of your bone and flesh of your flesh. Meant that they identified in his physical person. Telling him you will find no difference among us. We won't differ with you. You will find us not disagreeing with you. Oh, King! Do your bones disagree with you?
0:24:51 S2: Yes sir.
0:24:51 IWDM: Do your flesh disagree with you? Well, depend on our bones and our flesh as though our bones and our flesh were your bones and your flesh.
0:25:00 S2: Yeah. That's right.
0:25:01 IWDM: Because in our mind, we see ourselves as one.
0:25:01 S2: Yes sir.
0:25:07 IWDM: That's some powerful unity, isn't it?
0:25:09 S2: Yes sir.
0:25:10 IWDM: Do you think is any different for Muslims?
0:25:12 S2: No.
0:25:18 IWDM: No. The life of the Muslim is as the life of the body of a human being, that's what Muhammad said.
0:25:25 S2: That's right.
0:25:26 IWDM: That's his saying I just gave it to you. And I'm sure many of you heard it before. The life of the Muslims is as one single human body.
0:25:34 S2: That's right. Yes sir.
0:25:41 IWDM: So, when the prophet had us greet each other like that, he was following, he was just carrying forward the best tradition of the people. They had already had that idea, that the man or the person who has the concerns of the people at heart and cares more about that interest than he does his own personal life, then they see in that person the plural body not just one person. Huh?
0:26:17 S2: Yes sir.
0:26:18 IWDM: And I heard a learned Muslim Sheikh from abroad. He said, "Abraham is a community." You hear that?
0:26:32 S2: Yes sir. Allahu akbar.
0:26:33 IWDM: Not a person, he said, "Abraham is a community." And he said, "Prophet Muhammad, Salla Allahu 'alayhi wa-sallam." And he starts talking about something else. But he planted the seed, he planted the seeds. Now, we know they were individuals, but in their interest, they were a plural body, in their interest, they were the community that Allah wanted to establish. They had that in their concern, in their interest, in their mind, in their heart, in their spirit, in their complete life. Therefore, they could easily and correctly be pictured as a depiction of the ideal community.
0:27:30 S2: That's right. Yes sir.
0:27:43 IWDM: Adam was a community, and I can prove it with the Bible to anyone who wants to have it proven, but it's hot today, I'll charge $1000 a minute, $1000 a minute for my time to take the Bible and prove it to you. Yeah, you got a $1000 to pay me a minute and I won't prolong the time, I'll hurry with it. But it'll cost you $1000 a minute and I'll prove it to you in the Bible that Adam is a community. Not just a one flesh and blood person. No, the more important thing is not to see him as one flesh and blood person, but to see him as a type of the ideal community that G-d is evolving.
0:28:28 S2: That's right. Allahu akbar.
0:28:29 IWDM: Yes? Christ Jesus, not a person, but depiction of the ideal community that G-d is evolving.
0:28:39 S2: That's right. That's right. Allahu akbar.
0:28:44 IWDM: What value do you have as a person? What value do I have to you? As a flesh and blood person only? A guy graying hairs, going away, losing his hair, has lost a lot of his teeth already. Wonderful tooth job though, I'm dental y'all. Looks pretty good to me. Sometimes I has to get away from the mirror, I get vain a little bit.
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0:29:17 IWDM: This is nothing. What I'm devoted to is something, not this. How does religious establishment relate these things to the public, or to their publics, to their congregation? They put the emphasis on the person, not on what the person personifies or represents as a picture. No, they put the emphasis on the person and then they compete with each other. Okay, the cross and the crescent. You all have Jesus, he's Superman. And we have Muhammad, he's Superman, super Superman and they say, "Christ is super Superman." Then Muslims reply, "Muhammad is Super Super, Superman." And then The Church responds, "Yes and Christ is Super, Super, Super Super Superman" And the crescent responds, "And Mohammad is super super super super super super super super Superman."
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0:30:42 IWDM: Missing the correct picture. Yes. Missing the correct picture. So Muhammad said, "In the end they will see Christ and me together." Christ and Mohammad together. They wanna have us divided and against one another, but it's gonna finally be solved and settled and they will see Muhammad and Christ Jesus together. And he taught us the prophets are a brotherhood, like the Muslims are a brotherhood, the prophets are a brotherhood. Yes. They are together, not against one another. So when we say, "Kum" we're addressing the one person as though that one person was all of us, isn't that scripture?
0:31:42 S2: Yes sir.
0:31:42 IWDM: You have read scripture and studied scripture as students, you will remember that's what scripture says. So Allah says in the Qur'an, "Your life and your death is as the life and death of one person." Huh?
0:31:57 S2: Yes sir.
0:31:58 IWDM: That one person is the model, the model perception is a one-person picture. But that one person picture represents the plural life and nature Allah wants for all of us. Yes, collective soul. Praise be to Allah.
0:32:24 S2: Allah Akbar.
0:32:27 IWDM: And Muhammad so perfectly represented that, that Allah says of him that, "You will certainly find in him... "
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0:32:35 IWDM: You will find in him the most excellent model for any who believes in G-d in the last day. Why is it said like that? Because some people believe in G-d, but they can't be depended on to acknowledge or represent good nature and good behavior or modelled human life. No, they can't be depended on to respect that. Though they have satan, they do have faith in G-d. They have faith in G-d, but they haven't reasoned and brought the two together, that faith requires proof. And the proof of my faith is what? My accountability to that G-d. Do I say I have strong faith in G-d? Let's see if your life demonstrates that you are accountable to that G-d. Do you follow his commandments?
0:33:32 S2: Yes sir.
0:33:38 IWDM: Do you live honorably and honor those that G-d say honor? So if the life doesn't verify that, if the life doesn't support that, or affirm that, then you have faith, but you don't have accountability. So you're not having faith and also believing in the last day.
0:34:13 IWDM: The last day means you're gonna have to answer before the originator of the heavens and earth. Before the Lord that created this world and you, or brought you out of this world that he created, or set up laws to bring you out of this world that he created. Yes? A lot of us, we just hear these words, and they don't contribute much to our thinking in our life, believe in G-d and believe in the last day. We think believing the last day, believe I'm gonna die and be resurrected. Always self-centered, always worried about yourself. The last day got much more to do with important matters than that.
0:35:11 S2: That's correct, yes sir.
0:35:11 IWDM: The last day is addressing a behavioral trend in man and society that ignores reality. Gives itself to corruption, to increase the wealth of the merchants. It addresses that and says that that can't stay forever, that's not gonna last. The communist people were not too far off when they said religion, the communists who... Authors of communism, when they said that religion is the opium for the masses, drugs for the common people, they weren't far off.
0:36:25 IWDM: They wanna keep you happy. Keep you feeling good. With music, song, dance. All in the church, all worship. Music, song and dance keep you happy. Get you so ecstatic, you fall out, so ecstatic you fall out. Drunk with joy. Kicking like a person dying. You get up and can hardly hold that balance. Staggering around. Sounds like opium to me, or something worse. And we tolerate it. I mean, we the intelligent ones, thinking ones, we tolerate it. Get all nervous, stiff, when you hear me talk like this, "Why don't he leave those things alone". [laughter] Yeah, your disposition of mind would have kept us in physical bondage forever. Yes. If you don't care about freeing the intelligence of our poor performing race on this planet, then you would be one they wouldn't care about taking the chains off either, during the plantation slavery. You've got to wake up, you don't know the wrong you're doing.
0:38:09 S2: That's right, come on.
0:38:10 IWDM: When we read in the Qur'an, the words like these from Allah most high...
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0:38:28 IWDM: Did not we enlarge for you your chest?
0:38:32 S2: Yes. Yes sir.
0:38:32 IWDM: Your breast or your chest, why enlarge it, why? What it means, do you think it was physically pressed out like that? No.
0:38:42 S2: No sir. Come on.
0:38:43 IWDM: It's metaphoric language.
0:38:44 S2: Yes.
0:38:48 IWDM: Symbolic language that needs understanding, needs translation.
0:38:53 S2: That's correct. Come on.
0:38:54 IWDM: And all you have to do is go to college and take literature.
0:38:56 S2: That's right.
0:38:58 IWDM: English 102.
0:39:00 S2: That's right.
0:39:00 IWDM: And you have the tools for understanding this.
0:39:02 S2: That's right.
0:39:06 IWDM: When I first became you alls leader, wasn't long after I was in the leadership, I told you we are shaming this religion. The Islam that we have in mind is just too small.
0:39:20 S2: Yes, that's right.
0:39:23 IWDM: It shames the real Islam. That you have to you have to grow your intelligence, grow your mind. Acquire more knowledge.
0:39:35 S2: Yes.
0:39:36 IWDM: Become educated in the true sense.
0:39:38 S2: Yes, sir.
0:39:40 IWDM: Respecting nature and science. Mother nature and science.
0:39:45 S2: Yes.
0:39:51 IWDM: In order to do respect to this religion.
0:39:56 S2: Yeah. That's right.
0:39:56 IWDM: Give respect to this relation. This religion was made to be enough, and I'm giving it to you from Qur'an and Muhammad, peace be on him. This religion was made to to be enough for all levels of society.
0:40:16 S2: That's correct. That's correct. Yes. That's right.
0:40:19 IWDM: The highest level of society, academically speaking, or in any other way, has all it needs...
0:40:29 S2: Yes. Come on.
0:40:31 IWDM: For its capacity and for the development or freeing of its potential.
0:40:38 S2: That's right.
0:40:40 IWDM: From Qur'an and Muhammad.
0:40:42 S2: Allahu akbar. That's right.
0:40:42 IWDM: Can serve 'em forever.
0:40:45 S2: That's right.
0:40:45 IWDM: Oh, yes. Can take an uneducated person like my father, Elijah Muhammad.
0:41:01 S2: That's right.
0:41:02 IWDM: And like me his son, and educate that person.
0:41:07 S2: Yes sir.
0:41:09 IWDM: So that that person will make the highest in academia.
0:41:12 S2: That's right.
0:41:15 IWDM: Swoon.
0:41:17 S2: Yes, sir.
0:41:17 IWDM: When they hear him speak.
0:41:21 S2: Allahu akbar.
0:41:21 IWDM: Swoon. I've been among 'em, I know what they do, they swoon.
0:41:28 S2: That's what they do. Yeah. That's right. That's right. Allahu akbar.
0:41:32 IWDM: I gave just a talk, I don't get to talk to them like I talk to you. You are Muslims, and I'm supposed to give my brothers more than I give others.
0:41:41 S2: Allahu akbar. That's right. Thank you brother Imam. That's right.
0:41:42 IWDM: And I do. And I do much more. But you heard the expression, a hint to the wise is sufficient?
0:41:49 S2: Yes, that's it. Praise be to Allah.
0:41:54 IWDM: I was speaking I'm not one that wants credit. I'm not comfortable with people praising me, that's not my nature. And when I finished lecturing to their exclusive gathering, one of them an African American, wasn't many African American, very few, maybe one 10th of them or one fifth was African Americans. They were not African Americans. He came to the mic while I was still there, and he said, "Doctor." That's the way he said it.
0:42:33 S2: Yes, sir.
0:42:33 IWDM: Doctor...
0:42:34 S2: Yes, sir. Yes, sir.
0:42:35 IWDM: Doctor Muhammad.
0:42:38 S2: That's right. Allahu akbar.
0:42:38 IWDM: I said, "No." I said, "I don't have any college degrees. I'm not a doctor." And I was at the mic so they could hear me like they were hearing him. You know what he said? He said, "Don't you think doctors ought to know a doctor when they see one"
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0:42:56 IWDM: His exact words.
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0:42:58 IWDM: And he wasn't a Muslim.
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0:43:02 IWDM: Islamic sources were coming out of me. Islamic sources were coming out of me into their heads and into their hearts. And a hint to the wise is sufficient.
0:43:18 S2: Allahu akbar. Allahu akbar. Allahu akbar.
0:43:24 IWDM: So, when Allah says that he opened the breast, opened the chest of Mohammed, expanded it, caused it to be bigger. He made it big enough to house mankind. Big enough to house mankind. His soul was so pure and genuine that he opened his heart to the whole of mankind. All people. Yes. Then and now and for time to come, he has opened his heart. There is room waiting for all that would be born. He was a model human life that G-d wants on this planet earth. Oh, yes. And he said, one day we'll see him and Jesus Christ together. Jesus Christ came to say the same thing.
0:44:23 S2: That's right. That's right. That's right.
0:44:27 IWDM: That I'm the model life that G-d wants on this planet earth for mankind and societies of human beings to emulate his goodness, his righteousness, his charity, his love etcetera. That G-d had treated him and opened His heart to the whole of humanity for the whole of humanity, both of them are signs of that. And they represent what? They represent the common human life of excellence, that's what they represent. That's why both of them, said, "I am only a likeness of you in your best mould." Hmm?
0:45:28 S2: That's right.
0:45:29 IWDM: Yes. Jesus Christ said it to his people, "I am only a likeness of you in your best mould." Muhammad the prophet came and reverberated this, said it again, restated it, "I'm only a likeness of you in your best mould." Best behavioral mould. Christ said, "I in you and and you in me." And the Christian congregation, they believed that Christ is in every person. Christ is in every person. And if we understand Islam. Islam is the answer to that in saying that, "Yes, G-d created us and made us Muslim by nature." So the Christ nature in the Muslims is his Muslim nature.
0:46:33 IWDM: Then one G-d made all of it, one people were led to identify it as Christ life or Christ model life and the Muslims were educated in Islam to know it as the Muslim model life. So you're looking for a certain picture, with the long beard but American Indian got Muslim nature too. The first people on this continent, the earliest people on this continent we call the Indians, they got the Muslim nature too, they got the Christ nature too. Muslim nature, Christ nature, same. They got it too.
0:47:28 IWDM: And if they were within my hearing long enough, some of them would become Muslim. Yes they would. They would love what they would be hearing and they would accept it inside their soul and act upon it and become Muslim, become Muslim in their behavior and in their expressions, their life would blossom. From a Dead Sea, the life would take life in the right environment, shoot up straight, spread out in a beautiful symmetry. And show itself Muslim. Some of them are already converted. Some of them that heard my voice have converted, American Indians. And some have heard the voices of other Imams from outside of this community and they have become Muslim. Yes. When you become Muslim, you witness. Ash-hadu anna la ilaha illa Allah wah ash-hadu anna Muhammadan rasuluh Allah. I witness that there is, but the G-d, one G-d, Allah. And I witness that Muhammad is a messenger of G-d, Rasulu Allah. That's what we say.
0:48:57 IWDM: And we say we witness to that. A witness is a person that has some knowledge on the matter. Otherwise, how can he be a witness, or how can she be a witness? You don't have any knowledge on the subject, you have no knowledge on the matter, in the discussion. Now, how can you be a witness. You can't be a witness. But G-d made you human, G-d made you Muslim. And the Word of G-d can wake you up to that reality, that fact. And when it wakes you up, it shouldn't be the mind the world gave you testifying, it should be your all original good nature testifying. Saying, "Yes, I witness that this is the truth. This is real. This is real for me. Muhammad is the man that my soul wants to see face to face, so that my own perception of myself will be pleased."
0:50:21 IWDM: That G-d did not create me, a sinner, bring in the world with original sin on me. That G-d did not do that to me. That G-d made me honorable. I came into this world right, innocent. And Muhammad is teaching that and I bear witness that there is no G-d but G-d and no... And Muhammad is his messenger. No unnatural foreign human is his messenger, no. The natural true human is his messenger. You don't have to shed off the original garment that G-d gave you for your nature and take on angelic nature, no. G-d made the human to be above the angel. For His creation's sake. Oh yes. Oh yes. They exposed the names to the Angels, said, "Okay, angels tell me these names, if you know." And they couldn't do it. Then G-d told Adam, the man... The first man. The first model of the human that he wants to put on this earth, establish on his earth. And he said to Adam, he said, "Adam, tell them their names." Now, G-d wouldn't tell Adam to do it if he couldn't do it. Then later he says, and he told him the names of all the saints. Yes, praise be to G-d.
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0:52:42 IWDM: Most of the people on this earth has an identity crisis, big identity problem. You just name the race, I don't wanna name any of 'em 'cause I don't wanna hurt their feelings and I don't want you to go out and make trouble for me.
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0:53:02 IWDM: At my expense. If you would do it only at your expense, it would be alright.
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0:53:15 IWDM: Yes. Identity problem. And it can be solved so easily.
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0:53:31 IWDM: Allah tells us our identity, you all are from Adam. One man. You all are from Adam, who represent the universal human type... The universal human life. In his excellence, that G-d made. G-d-made life, human life from, Adam. But Allah doesn't leave it just there, yes, you all are made from Adam, because we know some of these religions theologies, they say, Adam, when he was first put in the garden he was a bright light. He was illuminated, illuminated like a shining star, that can swell your head, huh? Telling you that that's where you came from. So Allah says, "Boy," He says, "You all are from Adam, and Adam was from dust."
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0:54:38 IWDM: And Adam was from dust. So you wanna blow up you ego, you wanna inflate it? Know also that you came from dust. You were nothing. Nothing to be counted as of value or anything. Farmer doesn't want dust, even if he's a peanut farmer, he doesn't want dust. Yeah, you got him, brother. Dust can't even hold this position. Dust can't stay home. The little air, the slightest breeze come along, and dust starts moving out with the breeze. That sounds like a Negro to me.
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0:55:37 IWDM: Not all of them, but sounds like some Negroes I've been looking at. The least little influence from the culture, or from the fashions, or from the music, or whatever just blow him right off of his establishment. If his establishment was the good teaching of his mom and dad, blown right off of him.
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0:56:14 IWDM: So if we all identify in the collective life, the collective body, the collective mold, the collective spirit, the collective soul that Allah reveals, and say that all of you are one in that, I made you one life, I made you one spirit. But the world gives you many spirits and invites you to many lifestyles. But if you just hold on to what I reveal for you, showing you your true self, in the collective life, you'll be able to withstand these winds. These storms that blow your dust away. Reduce you to dust again and blow you away. We have to come from this hang-up with individualism. Individualism. You're looking for an individual to be your G-d, or you wanna be the G-d for us in your individuality. Gotta come from that. That's the trick of the Satan. To break man's life up and make man see himself as a whole while he is a fraction, a small fraction at that, like a dust speck.
0:57:56 IWDM: To see the life that is truly human as G-d intended it to be is to see oneself. Reasoning correctly, human life is thoughtful. Thoughtful life. As a man thinketh, so is he. The language of the philosopher. As a man thinketh in his heart. New Testament.
0:58:35 IWDM: Think, for surely thinking brings profit, increase you in value. That's Muhammad's teaching and the teaching of the Qur'an and Muhammad. Thoughts forming in important concerns are more united and more tenacious. You think... Your thoughts can't hold together. Ah, you can't find unity for your thinking. You can't find unity of thought and perception. You can't find a consistent logic to connect all the thoughts together and hold them together in a unity forever. You can't find it because you're thinking too light. And I don't mean like the light bulb, I mean like a feather. You're thinking too light or like dust.
0:59:45 S2: Yes sir.
0:59:56 IWDM: The thoughts of the real thinker are not passing thoughts. Whims, here and gone, form in the sand or in the dust and the breeze come along and erase everything that was printed on the dust, on the sand.
1:00:17 S2: Yes sir.
1:00:17 IWDM: Not fleeting thoughts, but they're thoughts that engage each other. Thoughts engaging each other to test the purity and strength of each other. And in their wrestling with each other, they develop more strength to throw away more impurity.
1:00:42 S2: Yes sir. Come on.
1:00:44 IWDM: But they stay together for the goal, for the in. They have an in that they're trying to reach.
1:00:52 S2: Yes.
1:00:58 IWDM: Rightly reasoning... Well, lemme go back a little bit. A poor person... Take a poor person. A poor person can have a big line of thought and thoughtfulness. No concerns, no mind. No mind no life. Concerns without devotion is like sleeping life, just sleeping through life. No devotions, just sleeping through life. A mind without desire is a dead person.
1:01:39 S2: Yes sir. It's a fact.
1:01:40 IWDM: No desire you're dead.
1:01:42 S2: That's right.
1:01:45 IWDM: A mind without thoughts of its own, a mind without thoughts of its own...
1:01:53 S2: Yes. Yes sir.
1:01:55 IWDM: Is not one's own mind.
1:01:57 S2: I see. Yes sir.
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1:02:12 IWDM: Allah says of the Qur'an, what is it? It is many things, it's guidance, it's little many things, but it's also healing for what is sick in the breast, for what is sick in your heart. Healing for what ails the heart. I love this expression.
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1:02:43 IWDM: We are those that follow logic to its right conclusion, and for G-d is religion.
1:02:54 S2: Yes.
1:02:58 IWDM: When the Communists made the big criticism of the popular religious life of the people, what were they saying with that criticism? That religion is a trap...
1:03:15 S2: That's right.
1:03:17 IWDM: To keep the masses of the people out of production.
1:03:21 S2: That's correct.
1:03:22 IWDM: Out of wealth, production and wealth. To keep them out. Keep them satisfied. Your natural appetite for pleasure, for happiness is in you to express yourself through creation.
1:03:47 S2: That's right.
1:03:47 IWDM: Through creation.
1:03:49 S2: That's correct.
1:03:52 IWDM: You are to be the meet of creation. Your intelligence is supposed to meet with creation. Allah made you to be the husband of creation...
1:04:01 S2: That's correct.
1:04:02 IWDM: Your wife. Didn't he say that the world is to till?
1:04:07 S2: Yes sir.
1:04:09 IWDM: Huh?
1:04:09 S2: Yes sir. Yes.
1:04:10 IWDM: Like the wife?
1:04:11 S2: Yes.
1:04:12 IWDM: That you have to go there and start ploughing?
1:04:14 S2: Yes. Come on.
1:04:15 IWDM: And bring out its potential?
1:04:17 S2: Yes sir.
1:04:18 IWDM: Bring out its goods?
1:04:20 S2: Yes sir.
1:04:25 IWDM: That's a bigger hack than going to bed tonight in the hotel.
1:04:26 S2: Yes sir. [laughter]
1:04:28 IWDM: Don't you think so brother?
1:04:29 S2: Yes. It's a fact.
1:04:31 IWDM: You gotta make your white man a big white man overnight, you won't see a Negro. You look in a mirror and you're, "Oh!" Say, "Who's that rich French man?"
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1:04:51 S2: Yes sir.
1:04:58 IWDM: For G-d is religion. That's an indictment of the world, that the world has presented religion in a corrupt form.
1:05:08 S2: That's right.
1:05:12 IWDM: So that the masses of people will be the slaves of the business bosses.
1:05:19 S2: That's correct.
1:05:20 S?: Yes.
1:05:21 S?: Yes.
1:05:21 IWDM: Yes. So religion is not for G-d. Religion is ordered to enrich the wealth seekers.
1:05:36 S2: That's right.
1:05:38 S?: Yeah, that's right.
1:05:40 IWDM: By diverting you from the fields of cultivation, science and all of other fields of cultivation.
1:05:51 S2: That's right.
1:05:52 IWDM: Divert you from those fields and keep you satisfied, you stay on a little piece of land, about two or three blocks long, and you live there and you die there.
1:06:05 S2: That's right.
1:06:06 S?: That's right.
1:06:07 IWDM: You're going to the stores around there and very seldom go out of the neighborhood.
1:06:11 S2: Right.
1:06:13 IWDM: You live and die there. But your habit was, if it's not still... If it's not the same now, your habit was to go to church on Sunday and feel good for the rest of the week.
1:06:29 S2: That's right.
1:06:32 IWDM: Yeah. Get a quickie.
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1:06:34 IWDM: Charged for the rest of the week.
1:06:38 S2: Yes sir.
1:06:39 S?: That's right.
1:06:47 IWDM: Yeah. Same old merry go around, until you're dead, huh?
1:06:52 S2: Yes sir.
1:06:52 IWDM: Till you dead, you die nameless, nobody. A shame. We're gonna defeat it.
1:07:07 S2: Yes.
1:07:07 S?: That's right.
1:07:07 S?: Allahu akbar.
1:07:08 IWDM: I don't know how long it's gonna take, but I know for sure we're going to defeat it. We got G-d's light, and we've made it into a mighty sword. And it can split a missile in half. Oh yeah. It'll split a missile in half. It'll destroy any weapon they got.
1:07:31 S2: That's right.
1:07:33 IWDM: If they wanna use it against G-d's plan.
1:07:35 S2: That's right.
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1:07:45 IWDM: We are those that follow the logic to its conclusion. Religion is for G-d. And we don't care if the rejectors of faith don't like it.
1:07:57 S2: That's right.
1:07:58 IWDM: That's what I just said to in Arabic, but I gave it to you in plain old Wala's language in your language bro.
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1:08:31 IWDM: Now, continuing on that idea we were exploring. Reasoning correctly. Thoughts belong to the mind caring for those thoughts and attending those thoughts. No responsibility for what is considered to be one's thoughts, no thoughts of one's own, no mind of one's own, no life of one's own.
1:09:03 S2: That's right. That's a fact.
1:09:08 IWDM: Oh brother, I heard what the Imam said. You did? Did you digest it?
1:09:18 S2: Yeah.
1:09:18 IWDM: To digest something, it mean it became you. We eat food and food becomes our flesh. So you heard the Imam, did you digest it? To digest it, it is no more the Imam only, it's you. So if you didn't digest it you don't have any thoughts of your own, you don't have a mind of your own, you don't have a life of your own. Stop looking for gods among men.
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1:09:58 IWDM: No responsibility for what is considered to be one's thoughts, no thoughts no, of one's own. No mind of one's own, no, no life of one's own. It is life-giving. It is life-giving. What is that? The revelation from G-d, and the teachings of Muhammad. Life-giving. Bigger life than we can find among each other. The biggest life possible for humans in this world of reality have been made possible for all of us if we just accept the Koran, and accept the life of Mohammed.
1:10:54 S2: Allahu akbar.
1:11:02 IWDM: No life of one's own, no job of one's own. Yeah, you be working like hell. As they say it down south from Kansas City to Kansas City. And they're doing the same thing up north, got two and three jobs. Yeah. Get up and running. And run from job to job, got a little time to sleep and go ahead at it again. And that's repeated every day for the life, huh?
1:11:49 S2: Yes, sir. That's a fact.
1:11:51 IWDM: And our men dying of stroke, heart attacks, just checking out early. Yeah, dying like flies. I'm not talking about the vices and the violence that's killing us off like that, our youth, our young ones, off like that. I'm talking about the lifestyle that we impose upon ourselves just to have a life of pretense. Pretended achievement, pretended social status is miserable. No life of one's own, no job of one's own. And it all begins what? With you having thoughts of your own. Not influenced by the styles and by the pleasures in the entertainment world. No, they're thoughts that you have gone to the factory to fabricate yourself after being influenced by issues of great importance. Hearing it from Qur'an and Muhammad and Imam W. Deen Muhammad or somebody else. Huh?
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1:13:17 IWDM: And then act on it. Can come into your privacy, into the privacy of your mind, and work with sacred respect for what you have received. And then digest it. Don't be satisfied until you have savored it, tasted it. And the mouth said, "Mm, it's nice." And you swallowed it, and it went down in the stomach, and the stomach felt good. No gas bubbles. It just felt good. Yes. And it became you, your blood and your flesh. And you live it. And you walk around and they say, "You a muslim?" "Yes, I'm a Muslim." You know, Imam W. Deen Muhammad is not even educated. He has no credentials, he has none. You will not be affected by anything they say. Why? Because they'll say, "Oh, you let a man just run your life like that? You let another man just run your life, take over your life?" You won't be affected by a thing they say because you will be pleased that your life has become the life that Imam preaches. Now, they're making an attack upon your very nature, they're attacking your very essence. They're attacking your soul and your thinking and your devotion. They're attacking you personally. So you might not have time for them, they might be so cheap in their attacks, you might do what Allah says, do say, "And when you meet the ignorant ones, say to them Salam." They didn't say Salaam alaykum. "Say to them Salam." Or give them a salami, piece of salami.
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1:15:54 IWDM: Is religion about jobs? If it wasn't about jobs how come Job is spelled J-O-B? It ain't spelled J-O-B-E. J-O-B-E sounds Job. Job is spelled J-O-B.
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1:16:24 IWDM: You have to take precious thought into your own care. Say G-d, this is a Bible. Say G-d, the people were suffering in the wilderness. They had stayed as slaves and cheap servants under another rule, the rule of Pharaoh. And G-d had guided Moses to lead them out of that oppressive existence. But now they out on the desert, and they don't have anything. Egypt was a bread basket for the world, there was plenty of food there. Now, they're in the dessert and there's nothing hardly.
1:17:10 IWDM: I remember as a little child when my father and many others and believers of the nation of Islam, went the prison, the men went to prison in the 1940s, early '40s, middle '40s, didn't come back until '45 or '46. I remember those years and really, if I would describe it I would say it was like a people lingering in the desert. Yes? A desert existence. But to such people, in the desert, it is written in the Bible that G-d sent down and rained down from heaven, manna and quail.
1:18:06 IWDM: And they were told that the manna resembled little coriander seed. Coriander seed. But obviously, it was not a like a coriander seed, because a coriander seed is a dry substance that holds itself, it's tenacious, it stays together. It doesn't evaporate. It's said if you didn't hurry and collect it before the sunrise and take it into your own private home, your private place, the sun would rise and it will be melted away, melted away, like a dew drop. And it rained down quail. Now quail is a bird, a bird that's used as a symbol of social achievement, social achievement, that has brought the society to be a society of peace, of peace. A model of peace, a messenger of peace. Yes, that the people have been blessed to see that descend down from heaven within their own sights. Wonderful if you understand these things.
1:19:52 S2: Allahu Akbar, yes sir.
1:19:56 IWDM: Now you know the story is told in the Genesis, in the Genesis. How is it told in the Genesis? That there came a flood that covered the whole earth, but Noah was prepared, G-d had instructed him to build a boat and gave him specific instructions to build it to withstand the flood and survive the waters till they recede, go away. And G-d instructed him to take animals in pairs, save the species by having one male and female, protected on the boat, so when the waters recede, they can go back out and populate again. Now you're thinking of creatures, these are ideas and thought patterns, to survive the flooding of immorality.
1:21:17 S2: That's right, come on.
1:21:18 IWDM: Corrupt behavior, that's the flood. And when the time was right to go back and populate the land again, a crow appeared, a black bird. A crow appeared. And the crow flew onto the boat and went back, never showed up again. But the quail, the dove, it went out from the boat and they forgot it had gone. One morning the sun was rising, here comes the dove, coming back. It came back with a little piece of plant life in its beak, in its mouth, to tell the owners of the boat it's safe to go there. The waters have receded and life is growing again.
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1:22:50 IWDM: That's, what is the message? Prefer not the life of drudgery just to survive, but prefer the life of social tranquility, peace and happiness, symbolized in the quail or the dove. And then if you have that kind of life in your heart for your brothers and sisters, you will be a message carrier, you will find a nice place for them, and you won't stay there like the crow did and enjoy it alone, you'll come back to your stranded brothers and sisters to let them know there's a place we all can go and enjoy together.
1:23:50 S2: Yes sir.
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1:24:06 IWDM: Are not we witnesses?
1:24:08 S2: Yes sir, you're right.
1:24:11 IWDM: We're not just feel good people, we're witnesses.
1:24:17 S2: That's right.
1:24:27 IWDM: Yes, a witness must have some knowledge. Yes. Of the matter in question. One must have thoughts of one's own, to have a mind of one's own.
1:24:45 S2: That's right.
1:24:47 IWDM: One must have thoughts of one's own, to have a life of ones own.
1:24:51 S2: That's correct.
1:24:52 IWDM: Without consulting or relying on anyone other than self. You and I should be able to respond to issues that touch upon our life in the history of mankind.
1:25:10 S2: That's right.
1:25:13 IWDM: Fire, air, water, land and living things formed of these natural parts brought into existence by humans on earth. Answer!
1:25:34 S2: Allahu akbar, that's right.
1:25:37 IWDM: The elements, fire, air, water, land and the things that form the life that forms of those elements. Was that made by humans or not?
1:25:51 S2: No, that's right.
1:25:51 IWDM: No, you know humans didn't do that.
1:25:53 S2: That's right.
1:25:54 IWDM: Humans are beneficiaries like all other living things.
1:25:56 S2: That's a fact. Yes sir, that's a fact.
1:25:57 IWDM: We couldn't do that.
1:26:00 S2: That's right.
1:26:01 IWDM: And can't do it now.
1:26:01 S2: That's right.
1:26:01 IWDM: And don't think satan ain't trying to work with his witch doctors and with his hight priest.
1:26:08 S2: Yes sir.
1:26:09 IWDM: And all of them in the fields of knowledge and science. He's working with them, he's desperately working with them. So you've got to create life. We've got to prove to the masses of people that humans can create life. We've got to get rid of this belief in G-d. But he can't do it.
1:26:32 S2: That's right. He can't.
1:26:34 IWDM: He can't even give us a picture of the universe.
1:26:38 S2: That's right. That's right. That's right. That's a fact. Absolutely.
1:26:41 IWDM: He can give us a picture of a facet of the universe.
1:26:45 S2: That's right.
1:26:47 IWDM: Or a quarter of the universe or telescope travel piece of the universe. Huh?
1:26:55 S2: Yes. That's right. That's right.
1:26:57 IWDM: But he can't, he can write, he can give us a map of Illinois.
1:27:00 S2: That's right.
1:27:00 IWDM: He can give us a map of the United States.
1:27:02 S2: That's right.
1:27:02 IWDM: He ca give us a map of the globe, we went all around it.
1:27:05 S2: That's right.
1:27:06 IWDM: But he can't give us a map of the creation.
1:27:09 S2: No. Right.
1:27:09 IWDM: That extends farther than his imagination can even go.
1:27:14 S2: That's right. That's right.
1:27:14 IWDM: You hear what I said?
1:27:15 S2: Yes sir.
1:27:15 IWDM: It extends farther than his imagination can go.
1:27:20 S2: Right. That's right. Yes sir.
1:27:23 IWDM: He hasn't been able to imagine how the end of it looks. It defeats his power of imagination. Who would forsake the religion of Abraham but a...
1:27:42 S2: Fool.
1:27:42 IWDM: There you go.
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1:27:47 S2: That's right brother. You're right. Yes sir.
1:27:55 Speaker 3: Takbir!
1:27:56 S2: Allahu akbar.
1:28:06 IWDM: Yeah I don't know my line, I'm a funny guy sometimes.
1:28:12 S2: Take your time brother. That's right.
1:28:13 IWDM: I'm trying to find my other note and it's words from a song, Walking the Dog.
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1:28:20 IWDM: That's what's on my mind, Walking the Dog.
1:28:27 S3: It's alright brother Imam, it's all good.
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1:28:31 IWDM: Lord have mercy. It is recorded in a book that has served many people for more than 1400 years. It is recorded that man was born, lived and lived honorably.
1:28:54 S2: That's right.
1:28:56 IWDM: Exhibited the best of human character for a time range of 40 years before he was assisted by revealed religion.
1:29:11 S2: Yeah. That's right.
1:29:11 IWDM: That man is Muhammad. Our model person. Huh?
1:29:14 S2: That's right. Yes sir.
1:29:17 IWDM: Peace be on him.
1:29:18 S2: Yes.
1:29:19 IWDM: He was always known to be a good person. Now, is there someone present here today who knows of someone living a good life through all their years till their death? Think, do I have a witness?
1:29:40 S2: Yes sir.
1:29:40 IWDM: Raise your hand if you know of someone like that, is there... Oh look, a lot of people, I'll raise mine too I knew one.
1:29:47 S2: Yes sir.
1:29:47 IWDM: Clare Muhammad, my mother.
1:29:51 S2: Yes sir.
1:29:51 IWDM: I didn't know her before she birthed me and before I was big enough to see her and know my mother for myself.
1:29:57 S2: Right.
1:29:57 IWDM: But everybody said she was a woman that was a virtuous woman, a G-d-fearing woman who didn't sin, didn't curse, did nothing to project her in any image but the image of a good person. Or are you saying that's no big deal, that Muhammad was established like that, for 40 years?
1:30:38 IWDM: Such achievement is common knowledge. That's my point. Such achievement is common knowledge, human beings achieve that, they do that, they live honorably, live good. Don't give themselves to sin and bad behavior. Live that way all their life and die. They're born honorable, kept their honor, died honorable. Died with that honor. Common knowledge. This truth is the great witness, you hear what I'm saying? That truth is the great witness, even we lift that truth above the story that man is born in sin and his life became so bad, G-d had to flood the whole earth over and kill all of them and just say he just means to start the human race and the animals or everything over again. He's so grieved G-d, or so disappointed G-d, that G-d decided to bring a rain of great flood and just wipe them all out. And even that didn't work. They started sinning again. Sin multiplied and filled the earth up again. Then He had to transform Himself as His son in flesh of the human being, had to come down here and live with the sinners and take on the sins of the sinners. And die for their sin and go back upstairs and rest.
1:32:34 IWDM: Now, The Bible, New Testament is also called the good news. Then Muhammad, one of his attributes or names, is Messiah. And it means the good news bringer. See, Muhammad and Christ Jesus come together? Called the good news bringer. Now, the Gospel was intended to be good news. But the ex-worshippers of idols, the pagans, they didn't have enough going for them, up here, in their heads to really understand the message of Jesus Christ. So they mistook it to be of Christ, of G-d, like the gods they worshipped in human form, in human shape, in human picture.
1:33:34 IWDM: And they took him to be a G-d, that was condoning their own life and appetites. We can continue to eat like we ate before. We are pig eating people. The Jews don't eat pigs. If they do they're violators, they're seen as violators. But we don't have to be, this man comes in this tradition of those people, of their revelations, but he comes to free us so we can have our life just like it is and just like it always was. But we can eat pig and drink wine and have our parties. Oh, this is really good news for the pagans, and this thing really appeals to the ignorant masses. Look at how many of them will be out of our hair.
1:34:37 IWDM: We don't have to throw them in prisons, we just quit building prisons. They're gonna be so happy in this new religion, we ain't gonna have to have any gods. Not for them anyway. We could strengthen our army, go conquer some more land abroad. Expand our territory. And we're gonna have a peaceful citizenry. They're gonna be just as happy, the food for the gods have been made acceptable for the common people now. Let them go ecstatic in eating the bread of the New Testament and drinking the wine of the New Testament. And you know we like blood, the wine is blood. And you know we like bread, the flesh is bread. Yes. A message formed to satisfy the appetite, the spiritual appetite of a pagan people. So, it's not good news. It didn't bring the good news, but it was intended to. Because Jesus said, "I am of my father." And He said that, "I in you and you in me." And we all are the creation of one G-d. That's what Jesus was saying. And then in the New Testament, in the good news, it says that the genealogy of Jesus, how did he get his flesh? How did his flesh get him? Came from Mary, who was espoused to Joseph. And then, well, go back, keep going back. Where is the source? From Adam. Bible. Who was created by G-d. That's Bible.
1:37:12 IWDM: So this great mystified person and model is nothing but a mystified picture of your own reality. My reality, your reality, the reality of every human creation, that's all it is, and what is the great message now, what is the great news? That this common essence that is representative of all people, black, brown, yellow, red. High and low. This common essence has the capacity and the potential to lift up people and nations.
1:38:00 S2: Yes sir.
1:38:03 IWDM: From solitary into civilization. From ignorance into intelligence, etcetera etcetera. That's the message. Now, if you're one of the victims of the idea of original sin and a super superman, not born like you, got to come and save you from your problems, then this should be good news for you. You should be jumping up and shouting.
1:38:28 S2: That's right.
1:38:29 IWDM: Yes you should. Because your value have been redeemed. Your validity have been confirmed. Your wonderful essence have been put on this pedestal where's it supposed to be.
1:38:42 S2: Yes sir.
1:38:44 IWDM: Again, after being put down. They gave you a put down religion. Puts you down, puts you down, down, down, down, down. And now, here come the good news that was missed in Jesus Christ, it comes out very clearly in the voice of Muhammad, and it raises a man up again. Yeah? Gives him his dignity and his honor again. When that is given to you, brother, I'm not big into the sisters so much, you sisters by nature, stick to nature more than you stick to myth.
1:39:17 S2: That's right, that's right.
1:39:19 IWDM: You stick to nature. G-d has given you that nature, you're waiting on the preacher to wake up.
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1:39:26 IWDM: You're waiting on the Rabbi to wake up. You're waiting on the Imam to wake up. You sisters are patient. You're gonna hold to reality. You won't even tell us all that's going on in your mind because you don't wanna hurt our feelings. I know you.
1:39:40 S2: Yes sir.
1:39:42 IWDM: And I appreciate you. I thank G-d for you.
1:39:52 S2: Yes G-d, yes G-d.
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1:39:52 S3: Takbir!
1:39:52 Speaker 4: Allah Akbar.
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1:40:00 IWDM: But the brother, he's a man of the field, his nature belongs to the field, belongs to the woods, the next town, they had the opportunity to... Opportunity to get work and bring something back to your sweetie. So he... His life is already in it, out, to the outside.
1:40:18 S2: Yes, that's right.
1:40:19 IWDM: Yours is already in it, to the birth place. The birth place, the cradle, the fountain of life. So what happens to him? He goes out there and he gets beat up.
1:40:34 S2: That's right. That's right.
1:40:38 IWDM: By the world of Satan. He gets beat up so bad he don't know how to get back home sometimes.
1:40:47 S2: That's right.
1:40:47 IWDM: Say another one bite the dust.
1:40:54 S2: Allah Akbar.
1:41:03 IWDM: You should understand the good news. In order for them to be expressing good news, there must have been bad news. That's what the gospel is saying. That in the past, that was bad news for human beings. Now here come the lifting up of the rejected matter of the common person, lifting thing that matter up again to where G-d intended it to be, as representative of life on all levels or stratas of civilization, is what was needed for all possibilities in our human world, for excellence and progress, it's needed. The founders of this society or this idea that we have, America, United States. Obviously, they arrived at that light, and they built the foundation of this society, upon that, good news.
1:42:14 IWDM: We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal. No, they no superman and small and juniors, or small men. No, we're all are the same in our original creation. All men are created equal and endowed by the creator are endowed with certain inalienable rights, among these rights are life, liberty, and pursuit of happiness. And they translate our ideology, they translate the pursuit of happiness as the right to own property. The right to own your own property, have your own property.
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1:43:03 IWDM: Seek, by the means that Allah make possible for you, for hereafter, but don't forget your share of this material world.
1:43:12 S2: Yes, that's right. Yes sir.
1:43:13 IWDM: Who have said to my devoted servants that the goods of this world is not for them. Yes, and exclusively for them in the hereafter.
1:43:26 S2: Right, that's right.
1:43:27 IWDM: Mean the sinners, the corrupters are gonna be cut out of it in the hereafter, all the goods of this world gonna be for G-d, isn't that justice? Our good G-d made this world and made us to be good for him, in obedience to him, then if we obey him and be good as he want us to, shouldn't he give us the world, that he made good? And not give it to those who lie and reject the truth and corrupt life.
1:43:54 S2: That's right.
1:43:55 IWDM: So that statement is powerful brothers. Who said to my devotees that this world's goods is not for them? Yes, it's for them. And exclusively for them in the hereafter. Peace be on to you. As-Salaam-Alaikum.
1:44:15 S3: Takbir!

