10-27-2001

Imam's Meeting 
Shreveport La

Imam W. Deen Mohammed

Transcript 1st draft unedited   Nasir Ahmad

Its always good to meet the Imams and visit the Imams that's always a special spiritual blessing and comfort to be with you all. I didn't have anything in particular to say to you all but if any of you, Imam Fahme if he would like to ask me for comments on some particular concern whether positive or negative I"m open to that. So I will just have a few words to say then I rather just open to questions or comments from you. The most important thing for me with you is that you know what we're doing, what I'm doing, when I say we I mean my office, myself, my office, what we're doing at my office. What we're doing in the way of dawah, what we're doing to support and contribute to the progress of the community, the national community in Religion and also in business or I should say in Dawah and in business.


Business Is A Part Of Religion

Q. 62.9,10; Call to prayer leave business

9. O ye who believe! when the call is proclaimed to prayer on Friday (the Day of Assembly) hasten earnestly to the Remembrance of Allah and leave off business (and traffic): that is best for you if ye but knew!

10. And when the Prayer is finished then may ye disperse through the land and seek of the Bounty of Allah: and celebrate the Praises of Allah often (and without stint): that ye may prosper.

Gen. 2.15; Adam told to dress, keep garden

" And the Lord G-d took the man, and put him into the garden of Eden to dress it and to keep it."


Adam dress, Garden His Soul And Environment

Because you know business is a part of Religion for us our obligation is to develop the material environment, that obligation is on Muslims and it was on Adam according to the Bible and the Quran. When G-d created the man, He created the man and charged the man with responsibility to dress the garden. And the garden in Al Islam is the whole environment, the total environment and the first garden is the garden with in our own souls the garden of our own souls or personality or character etc.

Q. 57.21; Garden width of heavens and earth

"Be ye foremost (in seeking) forgiveness from your Lord and a Garden (of Bliss) the width whereof is as the width of heaven and earth prepared for those who believe in Allah and His apostles: that is the Grace of Allah which He bestows on whom He pleases: and Allah is the Lord of Grace abounding."

The garden is "Wasia Arduha"   Ka ardes samaawaate wal ard. its expanse "Arduha" different from "Ard" they sound the same but they're not. "Arduha Ka samaawaate wal ard" that's earth the last one is earth, its expanse or its width is as the skies and the earth. And we may say "how are we going to develop the skies, it didn't say develop there, it says the garden, something to be cultivated. And a garden is also something you get benefit from, you plant, you reap, you plant you harvest. But a garden also gives you beauty, sometimes the area is already naturally beautiful, you don't have to do that, G-d made it beautiful.

So the whole sky a has been used as a field that soothes the soul when we look at it, when we contemplate the wonders of G-d, reflect on the wonders of G-d's creation, the wonders of G-d and the wonders of His creation.

Q. 34.24; Allah feed from skies and earth

"Say: "Who gives you sustenance from the heavens and the earth?" Say: "It is Allah and certain it is that either we or ye are on right guidance or in manifest error!"

And the astronomers studied the skies and they got benefit from those studies that enabled them to do better on earth.
They were able to make the compass and use the stars to guide them on the seas, the ocean and other benefits too they got from the skies. And Allah (swt) says and He gives you what you need from both the sky and the earth. So we can see now clearly that the skies and earth are given to us for us to plow it with the plow of our intelligence with the plow of our brain, our intelligence. And if we plow it we will get results especially if we give it something as we plow it, as we plow it we give thought to it. Give thought to it, you study it, dwell on it as Hon El Muhammad said "brother turn it over and over in your mind", that's what the farmer does, right? He turns that land over and over, said "turn it over and over in your mind", so its likened the field of study that's the universe to a garden.

John 20.15; Jesus seen as a gardener unrecognized

"Jesus saith unto her, Woman, why weep thou? whom seekest thou? She, supposing him to be the gardener, saith unto him, Sir, if thou have borne him hence, tell me where thou hast laid him, and I will take him away."

And Muhammad (pbuh) came after Jesus Christ peace be upon both and Jesus Christ was last seen by his disciples as a gardener so Muhammad came behind him to tell us about the garden and to 'make us understand better what that garden is. The garden is the nature world that G-d created for man's intelligence, for human being to study and to get benefit from the study to make his community life on earth better.

If we just accept what Allah (swt) revealed to Muhammad (pbuh) regarding the purpose of man's life we would be prosperous if we love it and   I don't see how any person that's not dead or lazy to the core cannot love it.


Man Created In Heaven

Q. 2.30; I'm going to make a khalifa in the earth

Behold thy Lord said to the angels: "I will create a vicegerent on earth." They said "Wilt thou place therein one who will make mischief therein and shed blood? Whilst we do celebrate Thy praises and glorify Thy holy (name)?" He said: "I know what ye know not."

Q.2.36; Get ye down from here into the earth

Then did Satan make them slip from the (garden) and get them out of the state (of felicity) in which they had been. We said: "Get ye down all (ye people) with enmity between yourselves. On earth will be your dwelling place and your means of livelihood for a time."

In the beginning of man's existence man was in the sky or we imagine man to have been in the skies according to Scripture. Because G-d said, He told the angels " I'm about to create a man, a mortal human being, a khalifa, He told them that. And when they disagree and caused difference in the order presided over by G-d and the order of the angels presided over by Iblis a jinn, He said "get ye down form here" so they must have been up there, "get ye down form here into earth where you will find your livelihood", everything you need.   Said He has made the earth to give you all of your needs, this is in Quran.

Q. 20.55; Earth produce, bury, resurrect from it

"From the (earth) did We create you and into it shall We return you and from it shall We bring you out once again."

Said get down from here where you will find your livelihood, where you will be gathered, where you live and died and be resurrected again, be raised up again from the death.

Miskat Masabah Ipl40#238; Quran Explicit, implied

Ibn Mas'ud reported the Prophet (pbuh) said The Ouran was sent down in seven dialects, every one of its verses has an explicit and implicit meaning and every interdiction is clearly defined."

Now we know from the teachings of Muhammad the Prophet (pbuh) this has two focuses and he said for every thing that G-d has revealed there is an expressed meaning and an alluded to meaning or implied meaning. And He said it is the same for what he taught too, Muhammad the Prophet (pbuh) said it's the same thing for what he taught. What he gave us had an expressed meaning and an alluded to meaning or an implied meaning. It is implied you can't directly you can't quickly get it unless you have already gotten it or been taught it, that's what it means, you don't quickly grasp it. You see the surface you see the plane message but there is another one and for every ayat there are these two.


Get Down From Here Means It's A Perfect Place

So the obvious meaning from the study of Scripture when He said "get down from here" it was that they were in paradise, they were in a a perfect place where there was no problems, it was tranquil, it was peaceful, orderly, no problems had entered it yet until Iblis disagreed or disapproved of G-d making man independent of Iblis.


Iblis Angels Under Him

Until that point everything was un Iblis the angels even, the order of the angels were under him . Ok so that's the obvious meaning, that everything was perfect G-d created man in a world, in a system that was all perfect but when he shared or exposed His plan to the angel Iblis trouble started when He exposed His plan for man to the angels and Iblis, the trouble started.


Get Down Means Man Created, Born Without Trouble

And He said "get yet down from here" so we know the obvious meanings, the obvious meaning is that G-d created man without trouble. He created human beings perfect without trouble and its our consciousness in the world, when we become conscious of the world trouble starts, but the creation itself is free of any trouble. G-d has made us so that you can't even remember any pain, you come through all kind of pain, child birth, the mother and you and the baby suffers all kind of pain, but when you come you don't remember any pain, you don't remember any pain, nothing.

No inclination to disobey mama, you don't come out striking her, you come out looking for her affection and accepting her affection. Loving her, at least trusting her depending on her and needing her to comfort you male and female that how we are born. So we're born without problems like heaven, like a heavenly child, an angel from heaven. And  brought into world and consciousness comes on and trouble starts. I'm still talking about the first meaning.


Get Down Means Religious Leaders Not Influence Scripture

The 2nd meaning is that order of men in Scripture, in Religion was like an order of angels they didn't believe that they should use their human brain, they didn't believe that they should use their human intelligence, that they accept Revelation, but don't let your rational mind come into it. Don't use your rational mind, just accept Revelation, let G-d speak you don't let your thinking or your mind come into it. And what G-d reveals write it down give it to others, they don't question, they don't let their mind come into it that's it, that's an order of the angels.


Iblis In Order Of And Perform As Angel

And obviously Iblis too was in the role of angel, he was leading them and obviously though he was not created to be angel he was in order of the angel and in the role of an angel and performing as angel until G-d made a problem for him, he could not accept that a mortal who would use his mind would be over him or would be independent of him, that upset the order.

So what I'm saying is the other application is that there was an ancient order of religious thinkers who were like that and they were the most powerful and most informed of all the orders on this earth, there were primitive Religions or man thought up religions, but those who got by interpretation guidance were over them and much higher than them in the order. But their order was not for this earth, the order was for the heavens up there, there religion was for up there not down here.

Q. 2.30; I'm going to make a man 

Gen.1.26; Lets us make Man in our image and likeness

And G-d says "I'm going to make a man" since you all are not doing what I want to have done with My creation, I'm going to make a man, now you have made something and I'm going to make a man. He didn't say like the Bible, the Bibles says, in the Bible G-d is given to have said to angels "lets us make man".   Allah (swt) says "I am going to make a man" didn't ask them anything. "I am going to make a man" to your disapproval.

If you study history you'll find those who tried to conform perfectly to what they thought was the Will of G-d rejected their human side and they sought to develop their spiritual side until it became divine not human, angelic etc., so this is history. The Quran is not addressing something that didn't happen. If its addressing something of man's life then that is a reality for man's life, its not talking about, this is not spooky and guess work Al Islam, Revelation, even the Bible, no spooky guess work.

As one physic teacher we had in the University of Islam he was so excited about the old science of the he loved that Islam under Hon E. Muhammad was making the real world, the material world that he studied because he was a professor of physics. So before he start his class out, he was our high school teacher, before he would start every time before he would start class the first thing he would say, now he wasn't teaching Islam he was teaching physics, but he would start out wit this sentence before even greeting us he would say "Islam is no vain imagination or superstition Islam is reality" and then he would start teaching his class.

Brother Lewis was his name and the Hon Elijah Muhammad converted him in prison I don't know what he told him, told him something I guess. Hon E. Muhammad would talk to you according to where your mind was and that's an intelligent person. Intelligent person will address you where you mind is, if you are a medical doctor if you want to bring a medical doctor to Islam then don't forget Islam is all about health too, Islam wants us healthy.

And scientific, want us to be scientific minded at least to have some among us scientists and caring about healing people and making people well etc. so he comes to that person that way, the Hon. E. Muhammad knew that. If you were religious, churchy people he knew how to come to you that was his groove, if you were churchy that was his groove oh he would really work on you there. But if you were a business man he talk business to you, he'd say " our savior promised us plenty money, good homes, friendship in all walks of life.   So you respect the person where they are, in their own minds, you see.


Adam Tell Them Their Names Means G-D Making An Intellect

Q. 2.33; Oh Adam tell them their names

So the creation of man in the Quran makes the creation of the human intelligence more than anything else. Said He said to the angels "I'm making a khalifa in the earth and He said "tell me your names" to the angels said "we have no knowledge except what you have given us, they didn't know their names. He said to Adam he said "tell them their names", so that show that G-d He didn't say How do you feel when I give you this beautiful picture of My creation? He didn't say how do you feel, do you feel like you want to shout, G-d didn't talk to them that way, G-d was addressing the human intelligence the brain. What do you know? The man I'm going to create he's going to know more than you, he's going to know your name, you don't even know your own name. So that's the creation of a scientific thinker isn't it?


Angel Is Pure Light, Transparent

Because angel is not something that you can conceive directly, you can't perceive it directly, you need to work the brain to try and seen an angel. You may never see that angel with your eyes and you won't because the angel is pure light, pure light means transparent, not fire.

Miskat Al Masabih Roberson 2p 1051;   

G-d Created Nothing Better Than Intellect

Abu Huraira reported the Prophet (pbuh) said "Allah (swt) created the intelligence, He told it to stand up and it did so, then told it to turn its back and it did so, the told it to turn its face and it did so, the told it to sit and it did so. He then said "I have created nothing better or more excellent or finer than you. By you I shall receive , by you I shall give, by you I shall know, by you I shall reprove, by you reward will be gained and by opposing you punishment will be received."

Muhammad (pbuh) said G-d did not create or make something better than the human brain, now  he meant better in its service and that's what we look at, service. What can you offer as service, can you serve man kind can you serve this community and people on earth, what do you have to offer as service? And we know the human brain is what we owe for most of the things that have advanced society, we know G-d is behind it certainly, the human brain you look all around you, you see the products of the human brain. The structure the building, the light, the coloring, the decorations, everything, the carpet, this mike, this electric system, you're looking at the products of the human brain and that's the cultivation of the garden. 
The angels won't change anything, they'd still be grazing earth like sheep if angels were still in charge.
Wouldn't even have____fried bread just good grass,
sweet grass.


Religion Says Man Is A Servant Of G-D His Environment

This is very important whether this is meant to be for Christianity it shouldn't be an issue with us, but it is important for us to know that this is the reality for us as Muslims, the reality is that Religion is all about man being a servant of G-d in his own environment.

He is to serve G-d by working in his own environment to bring out of that environment what G-d put in it for man in society, man in community life or man in society. He have put all these things into creation for us to use our brains, discover them and utilize them for the comfort and betterment of human community life and it happened in Muhammad's (pbuh) great cultivation.


Adhan

The adhan says come to prayer, come to success, but as many of you know who is sitting here today in Shreveport at this beautiful Masjid facility, many of you know that come to success is "Falah" and "Falah" is cultivation of the earth, it ain't success, not by direct translation or literal translation its not success. But by reasoning its success because if you cultivate the earth you're going to have success, at least success as a farmer, a gardener.

Hayya falah is not success, "Falah is cultivation and the common man you go to any Arab speaking country and going out in the field and  say "ayna al faalah" from the same word "where it the cultivator? They'll try to find him for you. And just like we have the expression peasants who work the land, poor people they got it in Arabic, Arab countries, "Falaheen" those people who just work on farms like peasants.

So the Arab he knows Arabic but he can't get any knowledge from his adhan, here is a Negro, an African American black man turned on to plow the universe with mind by father Elijah Muhammad and he hears his adhan and gets more out of it, get what he can't get out of it and he speaks Arabic, why? Because his mind been trained to think in certain way, he can hear that adhan over and over again he ain't going to get nothing. Because his adhan is for up there, my adhan is for up there and down here too.

Come alive "Hayy" means come alive the Arabs have again in their common language they have "Hayyun" means living, anything living is "Hayyun" and its "Hayy" the same word, just "Hayye" the "ye" at the end of it is affected by the rule of grammar. "Hayyun" the same world the " un" at end of it is the effect of or indicates the grammar, that's what it indicates, the grammar.

Eccles. 9.4; Live dog better than dead lion

"For to him that is joined to all the living there is hope: for a living dog is better than a dead lion."

So it's the same word in the Bible proverbs they have what they call   - and I read this in the Bible its called e an Arab proverb and its in Proverbs, but the Bible says an Arab Proverb. "A living dog is better than a dead lion", "Al kalbu hayy akbaru menal asad mait" So "Hayy" means living so the expression "Hayye" is an order, its an imperative, it's a command that you live. G-d is saying be alive, live.

II King 4.32-34; Elijah raised the dead

[32] And when Elisha was come into the house, behold, the child was dead, and laid upon his bed. [33] He went in therefore, and shut the door upon them twain, and prayed unto the Lord. [34] And he went up, and lay upon the child, and put his mouth upon his mouth, and his eyes upon his eyes, and his hands upon his hands: and he stretched himself upon the child; and the flesh of the child waxed warm."

Isn't that what the Prophet that discovered the widow's son told him live? Be alive, come alive, he was dead but he had the power to tell him to come alive and came alive. Was that the widow's son or I know one Lazarus wasn't it? No Lazarus the one that was dead and the widow's son was, yes, that's right he told him to live. And we were told that our savior came to give live to the mentally dead not the spiritually dead I don't think there was back man on this planet earth spiritually even if he was drunk.

Back there in the thirties if somebody would start playing some church music he'd try to straighten up, "thank you
G-d, thank you Lord, ameen, ameen, it was in all of us
even if you didn't go to church it was in you to respect
G-d.

So we know we already said it is two meaning so come alive, yes "Hayy" come alive spiritually yes but the more important in Islam is that you come alive mentally, the brain is what will progress you and bring progress for your life in community and for you in the world and yourself too, even for you spirituality you need your brain working to develop you spirituality better.


Heart Precondition For Brain Development

And some people say the heart, yes the heart is the conditioner, the heart conditions the brain, if the heart is a bad heart it will condition brain to follow the way of destruction. But a good heart will condition the brain to follow the way of health, production and creativity, production etc., a good heart will do that. The heart is important as the soil for the brain, the first soil for the brain. The brain should first get is roots in the human heart, yeah, know what the human heart wants, the good human heart. Will farmer put his good seed in bad land and bad ground?

No, so the human brain shouldn't get its roots in bad ground,   it should get its root in good ground the human brain.

Q. 26.192;194; Quran revealed on Prophet's heart
Q. 59.21; Quran revealed on mountain it would crumble

Had We sent down this Qur'an on a mountain verily thou would have seen it humble itself and cleave asunder for fear of Allah such are the similitudes which We propound to men that they may reflect."

So the human brain should gets its start in the human heart "And He revealed it upon his heart", said "if He had revealed it upon a mountain, not together now these are separate, two separate texts in the Quran. The first text, one text I'm quoting it said the He revealed it upon his heart meaning Muhammad (pbuh) upon Muhammad's (pbuh) heart, He revealed the Quran upon Muhammad's (pbuh) heart.   But in another text of Quran Allah (swt) says "had it b een revealed upon a mountain the mountain would have crumbled into dust, the mountain couldn't take it, its too heavy, but the human can.


Mountain Represent The Human Intelligence

Now what is the mountain? Intelligence the mountain represent the human intelligence, if He had revealed it upon man's intelligence man's intelligence would have been destroyed by it. But He revealed upon his heart. An innocent good heart won't question what G-d says, but a brain will.

Muhammad (pbu) was prepare not question it because he had not been taught before, he was ignorant of Scripture, he didn't know anything about it. So his brain couldn't come in and say "Well this ain't what I was taught" he wasn't taught anything before. "This ain't how I was taught to see it", he couldn't say that he hadn't ever been taught Scripture or anything like that before.

Q. 87.6; We shall teach you and you won't forget

But then G-d says "And we shall teach you so that you will understand or know" so that you will not forget. We shall teach you so that you will not forget. So here G-d was revealing to Muhammad (pbuh) and at the same time teaching Muhammad (pbuh). Teaching Muhammad (pbuh), revealing to and teaching him.

So the man that had no knowledge was given knowledge directly from G-d. So after Revelation came then you couldn't say he had nothing but a heart, he didn't have any intelligence in his brain or any knowledge.

No G-d had given them plenty intelligence, plenty brains, turned his brain on to Scripture, he was already turned on to money, he was working in business for his wife, may G-d be pleased with her lady Khadijah first wife. So he was turned on to business, to the world but was not turned on to Scripture, unlearned, unlettered in the Scripture. And G-d says "and we shall teach you and you shall not forget"; "Fa la tansa" and you shall not, then you will not forget.

"Fa la tansa" means we will teach you then you will not forget, so you will remember because the way you're going to be taught is going to make it easy for you to remember and you will not forget. Says " we have made it easy to learn, easy to recite, to commit to memory, made it rhythmic, rhyming etc, "we shall teach you so that you shall not forget".


Man Woman Roles Life Nature Ordained  ? ?

So all of this is said to you this afternoon, this evening to say one thing, in Al Islam we are to understand that this Religion came to benefit man is society and we say man we mean females, male and female. Came to benefit man in society, but why man so important, why you say man and not woman?   Because G-d created man and woman differently, created man to cultivate the field, and bring in what he finds in field so he can make his home life better. But He created the woman to develop the home life where she will be tied up for most of her young life bearing children and being responsible to rearing them to send them out when their old enough and strong enough and big enough, mature enough into the field with her husband, especially the boys, the men, the males.

So this is the natural way of life, this is the way life, this is life; life has done that can't blame man for that, life did that to man and the woman. I don't think no man said " ok you stay in house" in the beginning of man's life on the earth, I don't think he said "you stay in the house, I'm going out". He said " got damn it I got to go out, its cold as hell out there, its some wild things out there I may not come back baby. Pray for me please". He didn't choose that, nature put that one him and now the women going to blame us for keeping her in the house who we going to blame for sending us out in the field? Her, say you greedy thing you couldn't get enough, you never get enough, hell I planted a garden right around the house, you had to send me way out there to get you something special. You learned that there was something else out there 500 miles away, I had to be away from home for 5 months to go and bring you back that chinchilla coat whatever you're asking for.


Male symbol ?   Female symbol  ?

The woman send the man out that's why in the symbol for male sex and female sex it has the circle firing the arrow out. And believe me that's just what happened to us brothers that circle have fired us out. We have to recognize these natural distinctions for males and females. And Allah (swt) says the male is not like the female, this is in Quran.


Man Woman Differ Roles Same Spiritually

So where we have to know the commonality and that's the spirituality, that's the human intelligence etc., so when it comes to the role in society, there comes the difference, the roles in society are different, historically different, naturally different, historically different the roles in society.
Now modern world is trying to make them the same, right? Its going to make the roles in society the same, woman does the same thing the man, whatever she wants to do, ignore nature, don't' want any children, that's the jinn order again, I didn't say devil, that's the jinn order again taking over the world say "it ain't going to work this way".



Q.27.40; Jinn said I can get throne in twinkling of eye

Said one who had knowledge of the Book: "I will bring it to thee within the twinkling of an eye!" Then when (Solomon) saw it placed firmly before him he said: "This is by the grace of my Lord! to test me whether I am grateful or ungrateful! And if any is grateful truly his gratitude is (a gain) for his own soul; but if any is ungrateful truly my Lord is Free of All Needs Supreme in Honor!"

The Jinn told Solomon "you want Sheba's throne I can get it to you that while you blink your eye, with the blink of an eye", now that's awful quick. But Solomon turned him down, Solomon was righteous man, he didn't accept the jinn to go out and get that quick over night success, fly by night success whatever they call it. There's a sister back there, sister we just got through talking about you all, good things, all good things, keep that food cooking back there, got to keep them happy when they got their hands in that food. Say "the Imam in there talking about us to our husbands, our brothers, hey burn that up, let it burn a little bit. No. They're good sisters they wouldn't do that.


Man Purpose Serve G-D In Community Life 

Q.6.14; Feed not Allah

Say: "Shall I take for my protector any other than Allah the Maker of the heavens and the earth? And He is that feedeth but is not fed." Say: "Nay! but I am commanded to be the first of those who bow to Allah (in Islam) and be not thou of the company of those who join gods with Allah."

So in Al Islam we have to understand that, the most important for man is that he is a servant, created to be a servant of G-d. And he is to serve him in community life. You can't walk away from community life and be a servant of G-d, you got to serve G-d through community life, that's where you serve Him. Because actually He says "I need not for you to feed me see ancient men they were ignorant of science and the order
of the universe, so they knew something was responsible for making the earth productive and giving the rain to bring out the life and everything, the warm weather to bring back fertility or production from fertile lands, etc.,

So they made everything a god, rain god, sun god everything they couldn't understand a god. And so when they got a nice crop they said "oh we have to give the god something or they'll be angry with us". So he take some of his crop and burn it and smokes goes up and that's what he's giving G-d, send it up to G-d.

An animal or whatever thought the river was a god, throw something in there to him, that's to the god, see them throw a cow in there or a sheep or something, I don't know if he throw that much, he might throw a rabbit in there I don't think he throw a whole cow in there unless he had too many, he might throw a whole cow in there, yes sacrifice something to the gods.

Q.22.37; Blood doesn't reach Me only your Taqwa

"It is not their meat nor their blood that reaches Allah: it is your piety that reaches Him: He has thus made them subject to you that ye may glorify Allah for His guidance to you: and proclaim the Good News to all who do right."

So Al Islam came to get rid of all that superstition too, so Gd said "I don't need that you feed Me" He doesn't need anything of this creation, so how are we going to give Him something? Our Taqwa, our obedience, our clean, decent, healthy, conscious obedience, our Taqwa. And He said they use to give a blood offering and He said the blood does not reach Me only your taqwa. So that stopped the blood offering and actually we are not doing a blood offering but we do slaughter and we know the blood is to bed drained from the animal as best we can to make it halal and then we eat the animal.

And the blood not for G-d He says the blood does not reach Me only your Taqwa your righteous obedience to Him reaches Him. So Muhammad the Prophet (pbuh) is
a teacher and he taught us that whatever you do that is good and its service is good is worship, is an act of worship. Whatever you do that is good, the results of it is good, it goes for a good purpose or good cause, its benefit is good then that's an act of worship.


Muhammad Taught Meanings Of The Bible

So we worship G-d as the Bible says "worship G-d with you whole body, mind and soul, doesn't it say that? We see this is how Muhammad (pbuh) came and taught it, Muhammad (pbuh) taught the Bible, you see? Not the Bible literally, but the meanings of the Bible. So when he told them   everything that you do should be an act of worship, he's saying the same thing to them that the Bible is saying says "worship G-d with your whole life, body mind and soul. Not just with your spirit, but with spirit, mind and soul, everything.

And if you worship G-d with you mind then it means when you're using your mind as a farmer or as a blacksmith or as a doctor or whatever, let your mind respect G-d don't do what you know would not be accepted by G-d. So if you do that with Taqwa guiding what you do with your mind as a doctor, blacksmith or whatever, your profession is service to G-d. And according to Muhammad (pbuh) it might have more value than prayer if you just doing prayers and nothing else.

And again I often mention this two or three men were so impressed, Muslim men were so impressed with the ritualistic devotions of a certain believer who fast, when fast time, pray time he prays etc., that they brought him to Muhammad the Prophet (pbuh) and they said this man we wanted you to meet him, present him to you because he fasts when its fast time, he prays when its prayer time and Muhammad the Prophet (pbuh) he said who cares for him, who takes care of him? And they said "we do" he said then you're better than he".

So Al Islam will not accept prays and fasting and rituals if you're not doing something to develop the environment and make a contribution to community life. You have to have productive income, productive work and halal income, that's Al Islam. Now I didn't mean to talk to you this long. You know what makes me talk to you all a long time like this, you all blame me for it, "yeah brother I came out there with a migraine headache, I need four Excedrins". Well go for you because you're just sitting there looking at me saying "tell me more." That's the only reason I keep talking I'm looking at your faces saying "tell me more, "tell me more."

Thank you so if there is any comments and questions I will accept them and we ask G-d to give us His mercy and guide us always amin.
Now I rather you not ask your questions to me directly I rather the Imam or brother Fahmee receive your questions because I don't know who to    -   see it might be more than one hand, I don't want to be bothered with that. So they will select the ones for me to respond to ore reply to.
The only creature I don't want to take a picture with is an angel or Satan and if you're an angel they won't see you anyway; I'm just joking

Fahmee Sabree:
Brother Imam we thank you for your beautiful comments, one question brother Imam we had a discussion earlier when sister Baseemah was here and she was bragging about the suits and men's wear that you had. I see this one right here you're cutting it up.

Imam W. Deen Mohammed:
This is from Bangladesh the one she's talking about is from Thailand. And we are studying it to see if we should import some from Thailand. Thailand is better
business situation than Bangladesh, they tailor made this one, the tailor measured me and did this.

Fahmee Sabree:
So brothers you see when we had that concern you see the quality that we can get Allahu Akbar.   So brother Imam we really appreciate your time and we know that you got to get ready and we to got to get ready.

Imam W. Deen Mohammed:
Brother Imam got a question.

Fahmee Sabree:
We're just going to get one question and this is brother from San Antionio Imam Shakir.

Omar Shakir:
Thank you brother Imam As Salaam Alaikum

Imam W. Deen Mohammed: 
Wa Alaikum Salaam

Question Omar Shakir:
I just wanted to ask you if you would please give us your insights we've been reading some things about the current things happening in Afghanistan since 911, is there anything you want us to know of your insights on the situation in Afghanistan. The way our country is responding.

Imam W. Deen Mohammed:
If you are familiar with what I have said already what has been printed in the Muslim journal that's all I can say I have nothing more to add to that. But something that we like to stay away from because the air is so sensitive, something that we like to stay away from that I had to say on an occasion. I had to say it and it was appreciated because it has to be said.

You know sometimes a matter is so serious that you're not suppose to say what is expected of you to say and I'll give you an example of this. The companions of the Prophet (pbuh) taught that the Prophet (pbuh) taught that if bad person says something correct but you know this person is bad, you know their intention is bad, you know they have no good purpose among you. And they say Muhammad is the Messenger (pbuh) of G-d, you're not suppose to say yes.

If they say Allah (swt) is G-d you're suppose to say "yes, I know that" you're suppose to be silent, don't even bear witness to anything they say although what they're saying is correct. So if Muhammad the Prophet (pbuh) if he has taught us that we are to hold our tongue in certain circumstances, we're to hold our tongue, even though speaking is correct and righteous, we're to hold our tongue. We don't want to bear witness to what a corrupt person is saying because he is only getting you to relax and after a while he's going to sneak something in there and you're going to say yes and its going to be the thing that's going bring you down, going to hurt you, he's going to leave you with hurt you see?   So this is wisdom.

When those suicide bombers suicidal bombers bombed the world trade center and the pentagon but mainly the world trade center where so many innocent lives were lost, the air so sensitive you don't want to say anything to cause people to have any thought that you might be considering something, that you might be considering the perpetrators or the murders rights.

So there were things I couldn't say in those circumstances, things that I couldn't say that I knew should be said too. It should be said but not in these circumstances, not at this time and these circumstances and what is that?

This is not just about these suicide bombers, its been going on in Israel, Palestinians before it cameo to America it was going on in Israel. Now we don't know for sure, we believe strongly that what happened on November 11th was orchestrated by kaidah under Usama ben laden we believe that strongly because so much evidence and the government is so strongly holding that position, that he is the one that's coming out of there. But it hasn't' been proven, it hasn't been proven yet.

But it has been proven that he is of that mind because he said things cheering them, not saying that he was there, but "that's good, Allahu Akbar, that's good". So he's of that mind so that makes him guilty, he's of that mind he's guilty. Meaning that he would do it if he could, even if the didn't do it.

But lets say that he did do it, that he did that, what is he responding to? Not to not save him, no he shouldn't be saved he should be killed, not to spare him anything that he go coming that's justly do him, no. But in the interest of knowing what we should do what our position should be, and how to live form this moment forward. We should want to know what would cause him, if he did that what would cause him to do something like that?

Go out of his Muslim nature, go out of his Human nature, go against his human Religion, his Islamic Religion, faith what would cause him to that? Well when Israelis come to a person who Palestinian who has been living at his home, that's been his home for as long as he can remember his father's, father's, father that's his home and them tell him " you got to get out of this house you and your family and your children, we're taking over this house", what about that person?

Has his bad circumstances affected the hearts of a Saudi prince like Ben Ladan? Maybe so, right? Okay so a heart a lot is to be looked at. Now I don't treat these guy as murders only I treat them as murder and as deranged persons who been driven out of their minds by cruelty to Muslims and mainly to the Palestinians, and they looking at our innocent civilians who have been just robbed of their home and their land and killed sometimes because they can't take and if they to defend it they will be killed, they try to defend the house and stay there they will be killed and they were innocent and they were innocent. This is what the public doesn't want to hear. When I say the public number one what Israel doesn't want to hear, number two what Jews that support Israel in the United States don't want to hear. And what our government that has to deal with Israel don't want to hear ok? The government people don't wan to hear, ok?

So this is very dangerous for you to even talk like this in public, its dangerous, you're taking your life into your own hands. If you talk like this in the public you're taking your life into your own hand because there Jewish supporter, Jewish person who is very serous about keeping these things away from our American public. And there are government people very serious about keeping these things away from our American public.
So if you go out there talking these thing in the public you will be risking your own life. Where as at same time you will find ears that will listen to you, the American people, you will find government people who feel just like you and listen to you. You will find some Jews feel just like you and will listen to you some Jews who will feel just like you and listen do you. But don't forget there's a big number that won't so you're taking your life into your own hands, so don't get yourself killed for nothing. It would be for nothing but what can you do about it? You go out there and_____you're not going to change anything.

And Prophet Muhammad (pbuh) said if the circumstances won't permit you to use your hand to correct the wrong use your tongue speak out against it. And if you can't find the wherewithal to speak out against it at least dislike it in your heart.

So we have been given permission to not go out there and get killed . You don't have to go out there and be talking "yeah now I understand this thing". Where's that brother he's been missing for 20 yrs? They know how to get rid of you ain't no evidence, no nothing. Or "did that brother use drugs, he's found dead, he never used any drugs did he? Well you know we don't know he kept it hid. They have so many want to get you or just a big truck hit you bam he didn't see you and you're gone, so lets not be foolish.

So here is what we have to understand Al Islam says do not do anything wrong under any circumstances, don't do wrong, but at the same time if I'm starving and my enemy won't let me eat halal, he say you can't, you'll die if you don't eat this pork. Allah (swt) says eat it but eat it not desiring it and eat no more than just enough to survive, right?   So here is a thing that strictly forbidden but under these circumstances I'm permitted to save my life by eating some, right?

Do you think these terrorists are not reading some of that and following the logic, carrying the logic through to support what they do? Not only that, if a man steal, theft is a serious offense in Al Islam, but if we find that he was driven to steal by hunger he's a poor person, he's trying to feed his family at home, do we execute the law? No, the Prophet (pbuh) said we're suppose to give him bread, give him some food. So here's another logic.

So have these people become so desperate that they're now in a position of the starving person that's starved out, they can't have their Islamic live because people are feeding them un-Islamic, forcing them to do un-Islamic things? See they can carry the logic there, I wouldn't, I would die before I would do that. But I'm saying they're human and they are subject to carry the logic there.

Qisas Revenge take a life for a life 
Q.17.33; Qisas take a life for a life

"Nor take life which Allah has made sacred except for just cause. And if anyone is slain wrongfully We have given his heir authority (to demand Qisas or to forgive): but let him not exceed bounds in the matter of taking life: for he is helped (by the Law)."

Q. 2.179; Capital punishment is saving of life

Now here's what they have on their side too, that is on their side whether we like it or not, that's on their side, ok. But here is what they have on their side too. If some of our people are killed by those that are not our people, they are suppose to turn that murder over to us, this is the Quran.
They are suppose to turn that murder over to us or negotiate with us a settlement. You say this person did not intend to kill this person of ours, ok we're asking you to pay so much to us. To give some comfort to the mother who lost her son or to the family that lost their family member and to our community that lost its member, you're to give something to us, even though it was an accident.

It was on purpose, if it was murder you're suppose to turn the murder over to us, say "well murderer escaped" then you're suppose to give us one of your people, this is the Quran. You're suppose to give us one of your people, the murderer got away that don't make any difference, give us one of your people. If it was a free person you have to give us free person, if it was a slave you have to give us a slave because there were slaves still existing in that time.

So if you killed on of our slaves you got to give us a slave, if you kill one of our free people you have to give us a free person, if you don't we are free to go and kill one of your people, to kill somebody from your side, to try to find a guilty person or a person from you side that's like you.

You're not suppose to find a good person , you're suppose to look for a bad person that's bad like them, one of their people that supports their kind of behavior. And take one of their people and execute them, this is Al Islam the law of Qisas and what does Allah (swt) say about it? hi it is the saving of life, if you but understood. Let me tell you I buy logic 100?% ain't nothing in the Quran that I don't buy 100%.

You got a people that would take advantage of your sheepish nature and they will just kill you off and kill you off, you can't accept that, people just kill your people off. Ok and they will say "oh that's an accident" well if its an accident ok you pay for this. They don't want if they're your real enemies and they did it, they like hurting you that way, they don't want to give you that money, they don't want to see you with any benefits. So then you make them pay money, call it blood money, paying for the blood you spilled.

But if it was not an accident they have to turn over the murderer, no if that hadn't been given to Muhammad the Prophet (pbuh) for us in the Quran there would have been enemies of Al Islam who would have been murdering and killing people off, Muslims off and getting away with it.

I know this community, our enemies are not Jews, our enemies are not Christians, our enemies are not white folks, but we got enemies, we got some serious enemies. And if the thing would develop where they would start killing us off, brother I would be strongly for the law of Qisas or the law of equality. If they murder one of ours I'd say " well they won't turn over the murderer we got to get one of them".

So I'm not going to condemn a man that's even if he's insane and crazy, if he's become a demon, I'm not going to condemn him if there is something in his case that's very, very important that we bring out, without bringing that out. Condemn him yes but bring it out. Yes their insane murders, they demonic, yes I know they're demonic because when they get that kind of nature and that kind of mind where they can just go and kill wife, mother and children and all that and not have any conscience, they become demons. They're insane and perhaps both demon and insane.

But what drove him to that insanity? Have you made his life so miserable that you driven him to this? So its not as clear as it look to be on the outside. You got to know what's transpiring, what's happening over there in the world where Muslims are losing their lives, their homes, children, wife etc and all that's done about it is and "well camp David so and so another camp David" and the condition keeps going on, that has to stop.

We can't stop it but Allah (swt) can and Allah (swt) sometimes let terrible things happen to people, terrible things happen to us, we're not suppose to do it, but Allah (swt) He knows. If He kills a baby Allah (swt), "oh did Allah (swt) do that? No I'm not saying Allah (swt) did that, but I'm saying if Allah (swt) kill the baby, is the baby really lost?   The wise man told Moses "you can't follow me".

But the Jew not the Jew as a people or as a Religion, the Jew as a hard hearted cold defender of whatever they want to do among the Arabs in Israel. He can go o out and kill up ten Palestinians for one his people being hurt or killed, and ain't nobody going to get on his case and sent some missiles over there to hit him. So the Arabs and the Islamic world see this as double standard, and I do believe these pressures are being brought to bear on Israel and on United States and the Western world so that they will rethink what they are doing to be more just and even handed when they're dealing with problems for the Israelis and the Palestinians and many other situations in the world not just that, that's just one, any other situation in the world.

They let political expedience decide it instead of moral expedience. Now I worry about you all don't worry about me I don't give a damn about my life, what I do if I have to do it I have to do it and I don't care what the consequences are. I don't worry about a thing.


